I was seriously considering it for a while. But the price is just to much. The k20's are amazing engines though.

 

For a "suck" engine, the ecotec sure has been winning alot of national titles in the NHRA FWD sport compact division.

I'll give it to you the ecotec engine is far from the honda engines in effeciency, but it is faaaaar from a sucky engine.

And seeing this year GM stopped its factory support of eco drivers, and they are still putting down 7 and 8s from the ecotec block, for reading

*butt's head with Forty"

 

actually i was talking about that engine not being in line with the engine out of a celica and one out of a GSR (which are probably the two best four-bangers on the market for ease and breath of tunability) not overall. because overall its not a bad engine at all.

 

One thing that i will say is that this ecotec is the first 4 cylinder engine from GM that looks like they are trying to get in the tuner market, look at a cavaliers engine, they have really improved. I give GM 5 years and the motors will really be something, but i want it knowen very clearly in no way shape or form am i comparing them to the civic, at all!

 

man... it's hard to butt heads about 7.9hp per cubic inch [:@]

 

i'm not a big fan of domestic cars....but when you said that the cobalt isn't as moddable as a civic, i don't think they need to be. My friend just got his hands on a new Cobalt SS and he ran a 13.3 in the first week he had it....it is bone stock. Most people just want their street driven car to pull 13's. and most people end up dumpin a fortune into their ride just to do so, i'm not sure what te price tag is on a Cobalt SS but he is already at 13.3, when he learns to drive it better he will most likely get 13 flat or lower. So there is no need for it to be MORE moddable it's fast as hell

 

OK that's it!!! I'm tired of this slamming the D17!!!!! Yeah not really; I know it isn't great. *Shrug* I'll have it dynoed in a couple months, we'll see how dissapointed I am then.

 

i'll give em 7 or 8. thats usually how long they have between diff. economy cars.

 

at HIN boston they had an ecotec engine on a stand with a custom turbo set up... so they are deff. trying when they bring there engine to an import show.

 

the cavalier has been around since the 80's witch would place them older than 7 or 8 years. I honeslty think in the next 5 years your going to see some impressive Lt colbalts