Saleen
#21
04-13-2005 | 12:49 PM
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RE: Saleen
ORIGINAL: DCAcivic
the fastes super car around is a vett but not the one spoken off. the 88 callaway sledgehammer is the fastest car, necxt to that u have a few bugatti concepts and the twin the the s7, the chrysler me412 which would rape the s7 hands down. to quote one of the designers of the me412, they hit 210mph in there 5th gear. the me412 has 7.
the top car by power to weight is the TVR speed 12
the fastes super car around is a vett but not the one spoken off. the 88 callaway sledgehammer is the fastest car, necxt to that u have a few bugatti concepts and the twin the the s7, the chrysler me412 which would rape the s7 hands down. to quote one of the designers of the me412, they hit 210mph in there 5th gear. the me412 has 7.
the top car by power to weight is the TVR speed 12
ORIGINAL:StinkyPie
The Callaway was way too expensive to even be compared to the Lingenfelter.
The Callaway was way too expensive to even be compared to the Lingenfelter.
#23
04-13-2005 | 02:55 PM
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RE: Saleen
ur talkin about the mclaren f1 right? if so...lets look at these numbers:
McLaren F1
1/4 mile: 11.6@125.0
0-60: 3.4
0-100: 7.7
0-100-0: 11.5
Slalom MPH: 64.5
Skidpad: 0.86
Saleen S7
1/4 mile: 10.8@131.0
0-60: 2.9
0-100: 6.5
0-100-0: 11.2
Slalom MPH: 72.0
Skidpad: 1.02
both times are from the Saleen website. here are the times for the F1 on the mclaren site
0-60: 4.0
0-100: 6.7
0-100-0: 11.5
so you can assume that saleen was being generous on the F1 considering their times in it were faster than mclarens
in conclusion: S7 > F1 => F1 NOT top supercar
McLaren F1
1/4 mile: 11.6@125.0
0-60: 3.4
0-100: 7.7
0-100-0: 11.5
Slalom MPH: 64.5
Skidpad: 0.86
Saleen S7
1/4 mile: 10.8@131.0
0-60: 2.9
0-100: 6.5
0-100-0: 11.2
Slalom MPH: 72.0
Skidpad: 1.02
both times are from the Saleen website. here are the times for the F1 on the mclaren site
0-60: 4.0
0-100: 6.7
0-100-0: 11.5
so you can assume that saleen was being generous on the F1 considering their times in it were faster than mclarens
in conclusion: S7 > F1 => F1 NOT top supercar
#24
04-13-2005 | 03:20 PM
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RE: Saleen
mc f1 = PROFESSIONALY rated top super car. Dont fight the pros..
theres more to it then just who runs a better 1/4 mile or does a 0-60
for example. f1 has wider wheel base, is ligher, and smaller..making it handle better
Model
1997 F1 ( top)
2005 S7 Twin Turbo( bottom)
Powertrain Layout
RWD w/Torsen Differential
RWD w/Limited Slip Differential
Base Price
$890 000 USD
$555 000 USD
Curb Weight
1140 kg / 2513 lbs
1338 kg / 2950 lbs
Length
4288 mm / 168.8 in
4774 mm / 188.0 in
Wheelbase
2718 mm / 107.0 in
2700 mm / 106.3 in
Width
1820 mm / 71.7 in
1990 mm / 78.3 in
Front / Rear Track
1568 mm / 61.7 in
1472 mm / 58.0 in
1748 mm / 68.8 in
1710 mm / 67.3 in
Height
1140 mm / 44.9 in
1041 mm / 41.0 in
Engine
Configuration
BMW S70/2 60 Degree V12
Twin Turbo All Aluminum V8 w/Dry Sump Lubrication
Valvetrain
Chain Driven DOHC w/4 Valves per Cyl, Variable Inlet Timing
Not Available
Displacement
6064 cc / 370.0 cu in
7000 cc / 427.2 cu in
Bore
86.0 mm / 3.39 in
104.6 mm / 4.12 in
Power
467.6 kw / 627.1 bhp @ 7400 rpm
559.3 kw / 750 bhp @ 6300 rpm
Stroke
87.0 mm / 3.43 in
101.6 mm / 4.0 in
Torque
649.4 nm / 479.0 ft lbs @ 5600 rpm
949.07 nm / 700 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
Compression Ratio
10.5:1
Not Available
Bhp / Liter
103.41 bhp per litre
107.14 bhp per litre
Max Engine Speed
7500 rpm
6500
Chassis & Body
Body / Frame
Carbon Fibre
Honeycomb Composite Panels over Steel Space Frame
Brake Type
Unassisted Vented & Crossdrilled Discs
Brembro Ventilated Discs w/6-Piston Monobloc Calipers
Steering
Unassisted Rack & Pinion
Not Available
Brake Size
332 mm / 13.1 in
305 mm / 12.0 in
381 mm / 15 in
356 mm / 14 in
Wheels
(Diameter x Width)
F 43.2 x 22.9 cm / 17.0 x 9.0 in
R 43.2 x 29.2 cm / 17.0 x 11.5 in
F 48.3 x 24.1 cm / 19 x 9.5 in
R 50.8 x 30.5 cm / 20 x 12 in
Tires
Goodyear F1 P235/45ZR-17
Goodyear F1 P315/45ZR-17
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 275/35ZR19
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 345/30ZR20
Drivetrain
Transmission
Transverse 6-Speed Manual w/AP Triple Plate Clutch
6-Speed Transaxle
Final Drive
2.37:1
3.70:1
1st Gear Ratio
3.23:1
2.86:1
2nd Gear Ratio
2.19:1
1.61:1
3rd Gear Ratio
1.71:1
1.14:1
4th Gear Ratio
1.39:1
0.96:1
5th Gear Ratio
1.16:1
0.81:1
6th Gear Ratio
0.93:1
0.64:1
theres more to it then just who runs a better 1/4 mile or does a 0-60
for example. f1 has wider wheel base, is ligher, and smaller..making it handle better
Model
1997 F1 ( top)
2005 S7 Twin Turbo( bottom)
Powertrain Layout
RWD w/Torsen Differential
RWD w/Limited Slip Differential
Base Price
$890 000 USD
$555 000 USD
Curb Weight
1140 kg / 2513 lbs
1338 kg / 2950 lbs
Length
4288 mm / 168.8 in
4774 mm / 188.0 in
Wheelbase
2718 mm / 107.0 in
2700 mm / 106.3 in
Width
1820 mm / 71.7 in
1990 mm / 78.3 in
Front / Rear Track
1568 mm / 61.7 in
1472 mm / 58.0 in
1748 mm / 68.8 in
1710 mm / 67.3 in
Height
1140 mm / 44.9 in
1041 mm / 41.0 in
Engine
Configuration
BMW S70/2 60 Degree V12
Twin Turbo All Aluminum V8 w/Dry Sump Lubrication
Valvetrain
Chain Driven DOHC w/4 Valves per Cyl, Variable Inlet Timing
Not Available
Displacement
6064 cc / 370.0 cu in
7000 cc / 427.2 cu in
Bore
86.0 mm / 3.39 in
104.6 mm / 4.12 in
Power
467.6 kw / 627.1 bhp @ 7400 rpm
559.3 kw / 750 bhp @ 6300 rpm
Stroke
87.0 mm / 3.43 in
101.6 mm / 4.0 in
Torque
649.4 nm / 479.0 ft lbs @ 5600 rpm
949.07 nm / 700 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
Compression Ratio
10.5:1
Not Available
Bhp / Liter
103.41 bhp per litre
107.14 bhp per litre
Max Engine Speed
7500 rpm
6500
Chassis & Body
Body / Frame
Carbon Fibre
Honeycomb Composite Panels over Steel Space Frame
Brake Type
Unassisted Vented & Crossdrilled Discs
Brembro Ventilated Discs w/6-Piston Monobloc Calipers
Steering
Unassisted Rack & Pinion
Not Available
Brake Size
332 mm / 13.1 in
305 mm / 12.0 in
381 mm / 15 in
356 mm / 14 in
Wheels
(Diameter x Width)
F 43.2 x 22.9 cm / 17.0 x 9.0 in
R 43.2 x 29.2 cm / 17.0 x 11.5 in
F 48.3 x 24.1 cm / 19 x 9.5 in
R 50.8 x 30.5 cm / 20 x 12 in
Tires
Goodyear F1 P235/45ZR-17
Goodyear F1 P315/45ZR-17
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 275/35ZR19
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 345/30ZR20
Drivetrain
Transmission
Transverse 6-Speed Manual w/AP Triple Plate Clutch
6-Speed Transaxle
Final Drive
2.37:1
3.70:1
1st Gear Ratio
3.23:1
2.86:1
2nd Gear Ratio
2.19:1
1.61:1
3rd Gear Ratio
1.71:1
1.14:1
4th Gear Ratio
1.39:1
0.96:1
5th Gear Ratio
1.16:1
0.81:1
6th Gear Ratio
0.93:1
0.64:1
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