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Old 02-06-2008 | 08:41 AM
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Remmy:

1. You need to get your talking points from someone other than Rush Limbaugh. He's had WAY too much Oxycontin.
2. Steven Colbert is satire. He's really a liberal.
3. Your children and grandchildren will still be paying off GWB's war and deficits.
4. Clinton dramatically reduced the deficit and kept us out of war. Maybe Hillary could do the same.

I lived in Texas while GWB was governor and I couldn't believe anyone with half a brain would elect him president. I failed to realise how many people with half a brain there are in this country. I do agree with your assesment of McCain though.
 
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Old 02-06-2008 | 08:53 AM
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Usually I don't agree with people who call themselves hard core conservatives, but I do agree with you for the most part in that we don't have any really good candidates. I also respect your opinion because unlike most you are basing your decision on issues more than what party a candidate is, so props to you for that Remmy.

The only candidate who does not scare me who has a chance in hell is Obama, Hillary is a soulless bitch, McCain like others have said is too old, Romney will do whatever he can to gain for himself regardless the cost to others, and Huckabee I just don't like. If it comes down to having to choose between hillary and romney though I will be choosing to move elsewhere for the next 4-8 years at least. Obama I would be somewhat happy with, McCain I would be indifferent to and huckabee I dont really care about either.
 
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Old 02-06-2008 | 12:39 PM
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Remmy:

1. You need to get your talking points from someone other than Rush Limbaugh. He's had WAY too much Oxycontin.
2. Steven Colbert is satire. He's really a liberal.
3. Your children and grandchildren will still be paying off GWB's war and deficits.
4. Clinton dramatically reduced the deficit and kept us out of war. Maybe Hillary could do the same.

I lived in Texas while GWB was governor and I couldn't believe anyone with half a brain would elect him president. I failed to realise how many people with half a brain there are in this country. I do agree with your assesment of McCain though.
1. I hate Limbaugh and generally make my own statments
2. That was a joke showing how rediculous our choices are
3. Agreed
4. Clinton also avoided a lot of things at the same time that needed attention. I wont get into detail though, I dont want this to become a political pissing match.

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Old 02-06-2008 | 01:42 PM
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There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. That being said I fancy myself a fairly conservative type and I voted for Mitt. As far as the republican primary goes my problem is that most of the candidates are too moderate. McCain can't really be called a conservative. He steps all over the constitution (McCain-Feingold anyone?) and, other then the war, spends so much time trying to be bipartisan and "reach across the aisle" that he might as well be a democrat since he clearly has no solid principles. The funny thing is he's spent a lot of time recently snuggling up with the conservative base of the party. I can only hope that they don't forget what a tool he is. If he wins the primary I'm switching to the Libertarian Party.

Huckabee is likely to end up as another George Bush type president. Republicans need to get away from Bush and back to Reagan. Even though Mitt Romney is morman he's made it abundently clear that, despite whatever his personal feelings are, social issues should be left up to state governments to decide. I could care less about what religion my president is as long as he doesn't try to force his social standards on the rest of us.

Honestly, I like Ron Paul. My only problem is he wants to take us back to 1900 and isolate the U.S. from the rest of the world. Pulling out all the troops everywhere would save a lot of money but I don't know that it would solve any problems. In addition, leaving NATO and the UN and other international coallitions is a bad idea. We live in a global economy and although I support having a strong sense of national sovereignty there are better ways to do that.

That being said we need Paul's people in the GOP to bring the party back to its core politics of limited government and free economics. The sad thing is that it looks like McCain will win and if he does I will back him in the presidential election. Whats at stake is not so much the presidency as the Supreme Court. Very soon a couple of spots on the Court will start to open up. Ideally I'd rather someone like Paul or Romney to make the new appointments and reign in the Supreme Court but that may not be possible.

McCain might mess up the Court. Hillary and Obama will mess it up. Finally, other than Mitt Romney, most of the other leading candidates for both parties are Senators. Does anyone see anything wrong with a Senator being elected President? They're part of the legislature and have absolutely no experience leading anyone or being in charge of anything. Their job as senators is to go to Congress and vote on behalf of their constituents. Although this is an indespensible aspect of our government senators have no executive experience. Seems sketchy to me.
 
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Old 02-06-2008 | 02:04 PM
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Roto for president?
I'll be your running mate. Kokasian is down with the bitches and hoes
got my vote
 
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Old 02-06-2008 | 07:29 PM
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it will alwayscomes down to a turd sandwich, or a giant douche.

now, I think the u.s. economy is screwed either way, and this means canada's economy might go down a bit as well. I think obama might do the least damage, but look at the sh*t he has to deal with. F*ck little miss clinton, no wonder billy cheated on her. mccain?!? GTFO. get me some fries. ron paul? he seems that he knows what he's doing, and I think he would be the best person for the job. and the other ones... dont even deserve to be mentionned. And will someone please do to bush what they did to the kennedys? he doesn't deserve to breathe.

at least you guys have choices down there, we have... stephen harper... *shrug* it could be worse...
 
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Old 02-07-2008 | 07:16 AM
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I don't understand why Conservatives are STILL blaming Bill Clinton for the country's problems. Its 8 years later and guess what, its George Bush and the Republicans who sent this country down the crapper, not Bill Clinton. What ever happened the fiscal conservatives? The last timethis country had a balanced budget, there was a Democrat in the White House. The fact of the matter is that Repbulicans need to take responsibility for what they have done. Bush is still spewing his bull**** that Iraq needed to be liberated. The Republican Party had control of House, Senate, and Presidency and they did nothing. All they managed to do is give tax cuts to the rich, run up the national debt and take a royal **** on the Constitution. I think its time for a new face in government. I like some of Ron Paul's policies, but his economic policy's and his deep disdain for federal government don't sit well with me. He is in favor of getting rid of most Federal deparments. We've tried the weak federal governemnt thing before and it didn't work.
 
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Old 02-07-2008 | 12:37 PM
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I wasnt blaming any of our current problems on Clinton.
 
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Old 02-07-2008 | 01:33 PM
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My main complaint is the democratic ticket and how it shows that most of America is borderline retarded. Yea, our current administration isn’t that great, but isn’t the worst. Yea, the Clinton administration was also borderline a disaster, but people seem to forget about that and think Bill Clinton was super duper... when actually he did a ton of stupid B.S. that we are still paying for that our current president is taking a wrap for. If any of you are educated enough and gone through American History in college, you have found that repercussions pretty much occur after a specific presidents term and the new guy who steps in ends up taking the wrap. Bad economies, terrorist disasters, and bad jobs don’t happen over night. Keep in mind Im not trying to help G.W.'s current situation and im not talking about it.
You are shifting the blame from the current president to the previous president. Its something conservatives love to do. The fact of the matter is that Bill Clinton left office leaving this country with a SURPLUS and a fairly positive image throughout the world. George Bush comes along and runs up the highest defeciet this country has ever seen and negative image, the likes of which this country has never seen either.
 
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Old 02-07-2008 | 03:21 PM
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Well every car forum i go to, i end up talking about politics.

You talk about experience and that Obama is inexperienced. Here is the thing, Bush has shown us that you don't really need experience to run as a President. Besides that, you cannot judge Obama yet about experience, because he hasn't come to any role as a president to make judgements that is reflecting his experience as a politician. That is a question that will be only answered as time goes on. Now I was always like hillary, as i am from New York and most of us pro Hillary, however i will not vote fore hillary. She is a flip flopper just like Mccain is. Hillary only changes her views to match the current need in the nation. However Obama has always been true to his words, and I think he will do a better job now than anyone
 


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