Yeah, but torque doesnt do anything. Its a measurment of force being exerted on something. you can put 250,000 lb-ft of torque against the side of a moutain, and not a damn thing will move. but if you put a 2hp briggs and stratton with a big drill on the end, it will start moving that mountain, a little at a time. you HAVE to move something with torque to get anything done, and as soon as it moves, it becomes horsepower. so the torque is only there as a factor of HP. and I still stand by the fact that its a not-true superlative. If it was true, then like Levi said, the fastest vehicles on the road would be big-rigs. because they displace the most.

and the 8.3L Viper makes 505hp.
the 6.0L Enzo makes 660hp. and Im having a hard time seeing the turbos on it.

and even if it were turbo, the Henessey Viper of old made 733to the flywheel with twin turbos on what? 8L?

 

if i may, hennessey is the joke of the viper world...

SVS (super viper systems) has what is currently the fastest V10 powered viper..it is twin turbo, and dyno'd over 2000hp..and ive seen it run in person, in the low 8s...also, they are surprisingly chatty...i posted a bunch of videos in the video section when aruging with marty about GM versus dodge...

i know that these pictures arent great, but the stryker logo gives you an idea of what the car looks like, and the other is a shot of the turbos...i have a better picture, i just cant find it right now.

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also, underground racing dyno'd their viper (i believe that theirs is Roe supercharged) to around 1300hp...

 

sorry for the double post, but i found a video...the guy walking around is the guy who i talked to..i believe that he is the crew chief...


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watching this thing launch is unreal...i dont have a race video of it, but i believe that they broke into the 7s at norwalk last year in the mod-viper class.

 

meh, compare the viper v10 to this one http://www.bmwworld.com/models/m5_e60.htm

 

sexiest car EVER.

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^^^ you may like this vid then http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/futur...ewM6/video.htm

My personal favorite BMW is E39 M5 though.

 

It would be a sacrreligious for Ferrari to use FI on their cars. Ferrari makes relatively low displacement engines that produce awesome N/A power and reve very high.

 

Ok here is a easy comparo

a 357ci gm small block(GTO) vs a 427ci(Z06)

Same block, same idea's, same stroke. The LS7 owns it simply put. Once again GM.....4.3 V6 vs a 3.8 V6, the 4300 wins. Ok Honda, R18(new base model civic engine) vs D16 the R18 puts out around 12 more hp but with about 20 more ft lbs of tq.

I am going to leave this thread simply because there is allways an exception like a high priced , low production model but on a whole a engine with larger displacement has more potentail no if's, and's, or but's about it. I mean you look at the whole concept of a combustion engine and you can tell that,. A engine = a air pump, there for a engine that can displace more air has the ability to do more.

 

hmmm..i may also prefer the E39 M5, but the new M6 is simply awesome...

I know that the M6 at the NAIAS was open to poke around in when i was there, but that was on a industry day...was it also open for public days? Oddly, one thing that i dont care for on the M6 is the carbon fiber roof...

and as marty said, there is always an exception...technically, battle ships prove 100% that there is no replacement for displacement, as their engines are bigger than any of our houses, and have tremendous amounts of power...but, i know that alot of ships use forced induction as well...

in the end, fast is fast, no matter what youre driving.

 

...and engine speed. Don't forget about that. Even with low torque numbers, high engine speeds will allow an engine to do identical amounts of work (remember, that's what horsepower is referring to, as sacs said).

Horsepower = (torque x rpms)/5252