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Old 03-29-2006 | 12:41 PM
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the 360 was introduced to cars in the late 1973/early 1974 model year to cars..it was actually the replacement for the 340. the 340 was the only engine chrysler never watered down from its intended setup. instead of turning the 340 into an emission motor as regulations got more strict, chrysler instead launched the 360. the extra engine volume allowed them to squeeze a few hp out of the V8, as this was the top of the line engine when it came out, but it was a pig, none the less, producing 245hp (in 1974). that number gradually went down, and the last of the 360s in cars came about in the early 80s...by that point (people at that time thought that) fuel prices were high, and with the rush of economy cars from japan, most new car buyers were staying away from the V8s...so what 360s were fitted into cars like the cordoba, the mirada, the imperial, etc were few and far between. most of the V8s offered in the emission years were only done so as to be allowed to use certain cars in nascar, because back then nascar actually had guidelines, and the cars were still kind of stock...not 4 door fwd V6 sedans turned into coupe looking rwd V8 cars...

i could go into more detail, but i could go for hours...and most of this is of little interest to most people here..

berz, what does your car run? i am well aware that you have a nice car with a ton of power, but there is a big difference between the dyno and the drag strip...
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 12:46 PM
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Very good point... Drag strip is this weekend so Ill let you know then.... 12's on slicks, low 13's on streets is my goal and shouldnt be to hard to get I dont think.

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Old 03-29-2006 | 12:49 PM
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im guessing that you have LSD? what did your car dyno at the wheels, and what does it weigh? what clutch are you running?
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 12:51 PM
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Yes on the LSD 300 on the dyno 2200lb raceweight.
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:09 PM
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now, i know that dyno conditions are typically ideal conditions with keeping th IC cool and such...does your car put down 300 real world whp? because with a 2200lb car, and 300 wheel hp, you shoudl be capable of 11s provided a good launch, traction , conditions, etc...figure that my car has around 350whp, and at 3700lbs ran 12.60s...a roughy estimate of weight relative to ET is 0.1 second per 100lbs...so with a car that it 1500lbs light than mine, if you had 350whp, you could see very low 11s, but with the difference in HP, provided things go "right", you could be in need of a cage sometime soon...
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:13 PM
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It's alot different for fwd cars man as it is hard to rip good 60's and such. The cft si has over 700whp and a race weight of around 2000 lbs and is stuck in the low 10's(10.1's)
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:22 PM
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i understand how drag racing works...

my buddy's 1995 chrysler sebring coupe has a stock 2.0L in it...with LSD and a good fidanza race clutch. the motor made 160hp stock, but that was 120,000 miles ago...with a 55 shot, he ran high 14s spraying the whole run...with turning the bottle on as soon as i shifted into second, i ran 15.50 with the stock clutch and no LSD...figure that he made about 200 crank hp with the bottle, as everything except for nitrous was stock...

3000lb curb weight...maybe 175 whp...ran 14.90s..knock 800lbs off, and youre looking at very low 14s..and thats on a stock, NA 2.0L with over 120k on it...with the only mods being the diff. and clutch. also, those high 14s were on plain *** kumho tires, and 14 inch steelies...
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:24 PM
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I know you understand drag racing but after say the low 12's in the 1/4 mile on a FWD it is really really hard to go faster.
 
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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:28 PM
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FWD getting into the 12's is a pretty big deal. FWD getting into the 11's is a really big deal. FWD getting into the 10 is godlike and damn near impossible. I ran a 13.9 with a 50shot last season with 17" chrome rimz and **** tires. I had a 2.1 60" and trapped at 98. IF I run a 12 ill be more than happy. 13.5 or better on my 17's and ill be very happy.

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Old 03-29-2006 | 01:31 PM
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i agree to some extent, but i dont think that its even a point of driver error, but more so mechanical failure..another problem with CFT, is i bet that they are running a manual trans, right? while the weight transfer is a problem, the bigger problem is that the relatively "small" moving parts wont hold up to things like a beefier domestic...think about it this way...

if you built your M6 in the firetird,and got a good set of slicks, you could launch it at 5,000 rpm..just lettin it rip...and if the driveshaft or axles didnt break, it woudl move...but it seems that the biggest enemy of a really fast FWD car is the half shafts...the faster FWDs are running DSS shafts, and some of them are even breaking those..
 


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