As far as I'm concerned, we don't have the military numbers to exercise control on all of the Middle East (one/two countries wouldn't be enough, these organizations just move country to country) for the next few centuries or however long it takes for them to give up. Not like they ever will anyway, they've been after the Jews for thousands of years. The only thing that will stop a terrorist attack on US soil is deep rooted world wide intelligence or some peaceful solution, both of which aren't very feasible. That's not to say we should just accept such an attack as an inevitable fate, we've got to do what we can to protect our citizens.

Personally I don't think Israel is savable. Whether it comes from North Korea, Iran or somewhere else, someday it's likely a nuke will be detonated in Israel. They need to be thinking about making peace with the Middle East, because that will be their only option in the future.

 

You know that China owes a lot of it's economic success to our industry scavenging them for slave labor? Chinese-American trade is in the billions annually, with both parties "benefitting."

 

terrorist will get their dirty hands on those war head. and we are ****ed. war!!! WAR, bomb the hell out of NK!!!

 

^ ROFL.

 

Look guys, there will NOT be a war with N. Korea, what we will do is create a blockade with a colalition of other pacific countrys that this majorly affects and make sure that N. Korea does not sell the nucs to anyone. With the upcoming election and all this middle east sh*t going on I think many people are going to go Democrat, they will puss out(my personal opinion, but I'd love to see them prove me wrong) and not get involved and then we'll have repeated 9/11's on a regular basis, except with nuclear weapons.


Ked, WTF you know damn well you are trying to solve a 3k year religious battle in a couple months or even years??!!?? You should know better than that. Muslims and Jews/Christians will NEVER get along, the only reason that there is tension in the middle east is because we don't worship Allah, that's it, yeah it really is that simple. (from here out is not directed soley at Ked) And after all the religious wars over that area, that bad blood isn't going away anytime soon. Muslims, Jews and Christians are way to f*cking proud of thier "God", ffs if all of these people would come to terms with the fact that their not going to change anyone's mind and accept that Christians will worship thier "God" and Jews will worship thier "God" and Muslims can worship thier "God" without trying to force their beliefs on others this problem would go away, forever. But that will not happen in our life times, and probably not in the next millenium. Hopefully one day every can accept that people are going to worship thier own "God" whether you push your beliefs on them or not.

 

it can't do the same thing with North Korea, because it's completely closed to diplomatic relations and their dictator is a lunatic. Khruschev was relatively reasonable and I highly doubt that he actually planned to attck USA. Cold War was all about flexing muscles (so to speak)

 

Obviously. I said I don't think they are saveable. I was just stating they're out of options down the line if they intend to keep the land of Israel.

 

Getting out of Iraq is not an option for USA anymore. If retreat was to occur - the whole islamic world would see this as victory for their cause. Can't have another Vietnam

 

That would probably never happen. UN is the most useless organization in the World. When was the last time they did something meaningful. All they do is set deadlines for countries that refuse to follow the resolutions. When these deadlines expire - they set new ones. As a result people laugh at them. Countries violate the UN resolutions all the time (even the US, which went to Iraq against UN's will)

 

at the time, i dont think anyone just thought they were "flexing their muscles" However we have to treat this situation as one where escalation is inevitable.