You can do this...i do it in my dirt bikes alot but it can give a big kick sometimes and you have to be careful with the gas...its done smoothest at high RPMS

 

You don't need the clutch to shift up (i think Roto told me that) and at risk of blowing my trans i tried it out and it does in fact work. However, my dad says that doing that can put unnecissary stress/wear on the clutch and transmission components. As far as the difference b/w a permit and a license, with a license you can ride at night, with a passanger, and without a licensed rider behind you. You have to have a licensed driver within 500ft (might be less) at all times. Also, the Ninja 250R is a pretty good starter bike, its what i have. It doesn't really make any power until you hit 7k RPM so you can't really get yourself in trouble in the low end. They can be found pretty cheap, between 1k and 2k for a used one. I got my 94 with 5800 miles (and some dents and what not) for $600. I'm looking to get a CBR600F4i (01-04), which I will pay between $3500-$4000 for. Sport bikes lose thier value pretty quick. Also carbs suck *****.

 

wait, so licensed rider as like a car or motorcycle rider?
and yeah, I'm probably gonna get ninja 250R. seems pretty good to me.

 

Licensed motorcycle rider. Whats the point of having a licensed car driver behind you?

 

bwahaha, maybe in emergency, he could call someone up or something.
what other bikes are good to start with? for cheap?

 

the clutch is there for a reason if u have any sence u will use if u like ur transmission if ur not going to use get a damn air shifter if u want to shift fast.

for a permit here u rode when u wanted by ur self, night or day. my girl freiend is getting ready to get her M license if yall cant get one shes gonna make u look bad

i rode with a 250cc one day a boy i went to college with had a 250cc sport bike... that thing was a joke dont waste ur money he rode it for at least a yr and a half

 

Honda makes a 250, its the Rebel 250 and its about the same price as a Ninja. There is also a Ninja 500EX. The 250 I haven't isn't really fast but its good to learn the basics on. You also won't lose much on it if you buy used since they hold thier value pretty good.

 

yees, I'm going to get my permit today!

 

well of u get a 250 the good thing will be is they go forever on a tank of gas

 

Ye i got my bike liscence up in new york i was 16 had my driver liscence just go to the dmv and take the permit test and they tell you want to do next i took the course and now moves to nc and i hope i wont have to take the drivers crouse again i dotn ahve a bike yet my mom wont let me im 17 i want one somthing fierce ima go with a 600 650 thought its enough of a biek for a started no way im getting on anythign bigger