How are you with driving tickets?
#1
How are you with driving tickets?
I don't even try to talk my way out of a ticket at the time I get pulled over simply because it never does me any good. I've had 3 tickets in the last 2 years, I'll explain each.
1st ticket: speeding to work, 71 in 55. I got called in early and traffic was being all slow and bunched up so I was getting in the left lane to go around all those drivers trying to hug each other. I took my time being careful to switch lanes, but was trying to get past all of them just for those few seconds. Somewhere a cop was hiding and pulled me over. I got it dropped to something that didn't count gainst my license or insurance. Yes I was guilty of speeding, no question, I just happen to be around too many stupid drivers going 5-10 under and I end up going faster sometimes.
2nd ticket: Parking in fire lane in front of best buy. Let me start by saying I worked at gamestop for 2 years in a plaza with 10 other stores, including walmart. Everyday for over 700 days straight multiple drivers would literally park outside in front of all the stores just to shop. I never did see security or a cop give any of them a ticket.
Well there's a best buy plaza behind the walmart plaza and I was returning my LCD HDTV. I had to park at the front to be able to get my tv out and put the new one in. I did not think for a second to park in the walkway that was inches away. I didn't think it mattered. Well after coming out with my new lcd hdtv a cop is waiting to give me a ticket. I try to explain, to maybe get just a warning but this pig was so hard and desperate to hand out a damn ticket. He didn't say anything to me where I should be, he said he called the manager and knew nothing of why my car was parked there. I told him the manager wouldn't know because he wasn't helping me out. I mean this guy was like a bot, he said nothing the entire time, just asked if I was the driver and wrote me my ticket. I asked the employee that was with me and my tv do cops have problems with people parking here putting in large appliances. It's not like I was hanging out there just doing whatever. I can't unload the tv or load it in the regular parking spaces. I asked other employees and they were suprised as well. Whatever.
Ticket 3: Just happened today, speeding 57 in 45. I just turned from a 25 to a 45 mph street. It was 7am this morning, not a single driver anywhere expect for the one oncoming. I was stupid for not paying attention but there's times where I'm driving and I don't realize I'm going faster than I should be. Most of the time I can just feel how fast I'm going, but obviously not this time. The second I realized I was going over the cop had just passed me and instantly turned around with his lights. I was like damn, not again. So when I pulled over I got my stuff ready and waited for him to catch up. He asked if I knew how fast I said a little over 55. He said 57 and proceeded to get my info and give me a ticket. I apologized after everything was done, but he kept walked away probably thinking to himself "I haven't heard that before". Again, whatever. Luckily this one I don't have to pay for but there's a point system for me driving on base. I guess too many points and you lose your driving priveledges on a military base, a suspension. When I go there to plead guilty or not guilty I will explain to them. Hopefully they won't do anything to count against my insurance. This was another honest mistake.
So out of my 3 tickets, I feel I've only should've had 1. And I swear it's my luck because 5 days a week going to work people pass by me all the time, going 65-75 in a 55 and I never see a cop in their usual hiding spots. And I never ever go over 25 in the 25mph zones, but I see people going 35 all the time again. Another reason why I can't stand a lot of people and my luck.
1st ticket: speeding to work, 71 in 55. I got called in early and traffic was being all slow and bunched up so I was getting in the left lane to go around all those drivers trying to hug each other. I took my time being careful to switch lanes, but was trying to get past all of them just for those few seconds. Somewhere a cop was hiding and pulled me over. I got it dropped to something that didn't count gainst my license or insurance. Yes I was guilty of speeding, no question, I just happen to be around too many stupid drivers going 5-10 under and I end up going faster sometimes.
2nd ticket: Parking in fire lane in front of best buy. Let me start by saying I worked at gamestop for 2 years in a plaza with 10 other stores, including walmart. Everyday for over 700 days straight multiple drivers would literally park outside in front of all the stores just to shop. I never did see security or a cop give any of them a ticket.
Well there's a best buy plaza behind the walmart plaza and I was returning my LCD HDTV. I had to park at the front to be able to get my tv out and put the new one in. I did not think for a second to park in the walkway that was inches away. I didn't think it mattered. Well after coming out with my new lcd hdtv a cop is waiting to give me a ticket. I try to explain, to maybe get just a warning but this pig was so hard and desperate to hand out a damn ticket. He didn't say anything to me where I should be, he said he called the manager and knew nothing of why my car was parked there. I told him the manager wouldn't know because he wasn't helping me out. I mean this guy was like a bot, he said nothing the entire time, just asked if I was the driver and wrote me my ticket. I asked the employee that was with me and my tv do cops have problems with people parking here putting in large appliances. It's not like I was hanging out there just doing whatever. I can't unload the tv or load it in the regular parking spaces. I asked other employees and they were suprised as well. Whatever.
Ticket 3: Just happened today, speeding 57 in 45. I just turned from a 25 to a 45 mph street. It was 7am this morning, not a single driver anywhere expect for the one oncoming. I was stupid for not paying attention but there's times where I'm driving and I don't realize I'm going faster than I should be. Most of the time I can just feel how fast I'm going, but obviously not this time. The second I realized I was going over the cop had just passed me and instantly turned around with his lights. I was like damn, not again. So when I pulled over I got my stuff ready and waited for him to catch up. He asked if I knew how fast I said a little over 55. He said 57 and proceeded to get my info and give me a ticket. I apologized after everything was done, but he kept walked away probably thinking to himself "I haven't heard that before". Again, whatever. Luckily this one I don't have to pay for but there's a point system for me driving on base. I guess too many points and you lose your driving priveledges on a military base, a suspension. When I go there to plead guilty or not guilty I will explain to them. Hopefully they won't do anything to count against my insurance. This was another honest mistake.
So out of my 3 tickets, I feel I've only should've had 1. And I swear it's my luck because 5 days a week going to work people pass by me all the time, going 65-75 in a 55 and I never see a cop in their usual hiding spots. And I never ever go over 25 in the 25mph zones, but I see people going 35 all the time again. Another reason why I can't stand a lot of people and my luck.
#2
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
only got one, and he said i was speeding going 60 in a 35, the kicker is, is that i'm 1000% sure that i was in second gear, and i can't go 60 in second gear unless i throw a rod. so that throws his "judgement" of his radar out the window. but there's no way to prove that, plus i was just traveling with other traffic. he basically picked me out of the pack because: of my red car, and i was a young driver. i got it reduced and it was a first offense, so no biggy with insurance.
#3
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
funny you should mention it... just had a nice little encounter with a LEO yesterday evening[8D]
Ticket #1
12/2006 - Careless driving (donuts)
I came home from school one day and it had been absolutely dumping the white stuff all day... well, I figured I might as well have a little fun with it. I live on a caul-de-sac, which I realized make the perfect place to have a little a**-dragging fun. I guess I should have called it quits a little earlier because I'd been out there long enough to have my neighbor call the cops on me... I'm guessing the cranky old b***h thought I was going to hit her mailbox or something... so instead of coming outside and asking me politely to stop (which I would have done without a problem), she called the f**king cops. Four points on my license and a $107 fine. And the kicker is that now the b***h talks to me like nothing ever happened. I know it's my fault and everything, but come on... that's a bit rediculous to call the cops on a neighbor that's never done anything rude or anything... we live in a quiet little neighborhood... the only times that people make any noise after 10:00 or so are occasions like July 4th. It's not like one of those neighborhoods where the neighbors hate each other and try continuously to p**s each other off.
- This one p**ed me off.... officer douchecanoe didn't even stay outside to write the d**m ticket... he had me follow him to the PD, photocopied my license and info, and sent me the ticket in the mail a week or so later. God forbid the fata** stand outside in 20* weather for 10 minutes. (for the record, I live in a town with 3 cops... I know them all, and it just so happened to be the one cop I hated lol)
Warning #1 (neon underlights)
Sometime in early '07 - Aux. lighting violation
Basically, at the time I had blue neon underlights. Normally, I reserved them for when I was hanging out with friends in driveways and parking lots... anyway, I was on my way home and figured what the hell... why not? Sure enough, one of the intersections I decide to go through had a cop sitting off to the side monitoring traffic. I turned off the lights as soon as I saw him, but it was too late. And don't worry, I don't blame anyone but myself for this one, either. The only thing that really pissed me off was that the cop (the same one as last time... I f**king hated that guy) managed to waste over a half hour writing the f**king warning... there's like 10 d**m things the cop has to write down!!! It's not like he's doing the f**king SATs or anything that it should take that long...
Warning #2 (38.1 in a 25)
5/30/08 - Speeding
Okay, so yesterday I decided to take my mustang and go across town to get some chips... well, we have one grocery store in town and it had closed about 30 minutes beforehand. So, I head to one of the local mini-marts... they don't have the kind I'm looking for... so I go across town to another mini-mart to get the chips. Well, I'm coming out of the parking lot and I'm sitting at a flashing red light (that's right... the town I live in is so small that the only traffic lights are two sets of flashing yellow/red lights). Anyway, I look around, and there's no cops... so I figure what the hell... I hit the traction control "off" button and drop the clutch at about 3500 rpm... I'm on a slight incline, so the car doesn't budge as the back tires start spinning... after a few seconds, the car starts going forward as tire smoke pours from the back. I look down at the tach (not the speedo) and it's about 500rpm from redline, so I let off the throttle and watch the rpms go down. At this point, I'm doing about 40 in a 25. I look down and realize how fast I'm going and hit the brakes to slow down. Well, I'm down the 30, the average speed on the street... and I look in the rear view only to see a cruiser hauling a** to catch up with me (which was a bit rediculous considering I'm only going 30 at the time... the cop must've been about double that)... well, at this point I'm hoping he didn't see me do the burnout, since you can get in a s**tpile of trouble for spinning the whels.
Anyway, he follows me for about 1,000 feet and finally lights me up. Okay, so I'm currently at the point where I don't give a rat's a** about tickets... chances are they're going to be my fault anyway. So I'm nice and calm, and still in a good mood (burnouts do that). He comes ups to me:
"Do you have any idea why I pulled you over?"
"Not really." (what the hell else do you say?)
"It might have been the same reason you slammed on the brakes as you passed me" (I didn't even see the cop until he was trying to catch up with me, so that didn't exactly happen)
"I didn't even see you"
"Oh. Well anyway, you were going a bit fast back there; I clocked you at about 38mph. So can I see your license, registration, and insurance information?"
-I have all three ready already and hand them to him-
He comes back about 5 minutes later and tells me he's going to give me a written warning for speeding, and then I proceed to explain that I just got the car tuesday and wasn't really used to it yet and didn't realize how fast I was going... and he stood there for another 5 minutes talking to me about the 'stang. I love the new cop There's no way he didn't hear me do the burnout lol
Anyway, I realize I'm a dumba** and I don't really recommend anybody do stupid s**t like me... every time I do something stupid, I end up going home and thinking about how much of an a**hat I am lol
*edited so people know I was in the 'stang for the last offense (smoke pouring out of the rear wheel wells on a civic is not a good thing lol)
Ticket #1
12/2006 - Careless driving (donuts)
I came home from school one day and it had been absolutely dumping the white stuff all day... well, I figured I might as well have a little fun with it. I live on a caul-de-sac, which I realized make the perfect place to have a little a**-dragging fun. I guess I should have called it quits a little earlier because I'd been out there long enough to have my neighbor call the cops on me... I'm guessing the cranky old b***h thought I was going to hit her mailbox or something... so instead of coming outside and asking me politely to stop (which I would have done without a problem), she called the f**king cops. Four points on my license and a $107 fine. And the kicker is that now the b***h talks to me like nothing ever happened. I know it's my fault and everything, but come on... that's a bit rediculous to call the cops on a neighbor that's never done anything rude or anything... we live in a quiet little neighborhood... the only times that people make any noise after 10:00 or so are occasions like July 4th. It's not like one of those neighborhoods where the neighbors hate each other and try continuously to p**s each other off.
- This one p**ed me off.... officer douchecanoe didn't even stay outside to write the d**m ticket... he had me follow him to the PD, photocopied my license and info, and sent me the ticket in the mail a week or so later. God forbid the fata** stand outside in 20* weather for 10 minutes. (for the record, I live in a town with 3 cops... I know them all, and it just so happened to be the one cop I hated lol)
Warning #1 (neon underlights)
Sometime in early '07 - Aux. lighting violation
Basically, at the time I had blue neon underlights. Normally, I reserved them for when I was hanging out with friends in driveways and parking lots... anyway, I was on my way home and figured what the hell... why not? Sure enough, one of the intersections I decide to go through had a cop sitting off to the side monitoring traffic. I turned off the lights as soon as I saw him, but it was too late. And don't worry, I don't blame anyone but myself for this one, either. The only thing that really pissed me off was that the cop (the same one as last time... I f**king hated that guy) managed to waste over a half hour writing the f**king warning... there's like 10 d**m things the cop has to write down!!! It's not like he's doing the f**king SATs or anything that it should take that long...
Warning #2 (38.1 in a 25)
5/30/08 - Speeding
Okay, so yesterday I decided to take my mustang and go across town to get some chips... well, we have one grocery store in town and it had closed about 30 minutes beforehand. So, I head to one of the local mini-marts... they don't have the kind I'm looking for... so I go across town to another mini-mart to get the chips. Well, I'm coming out of the parking lot and I'm sitting at a flashing red light (that's right... the town I live in is so small that the only traffic lights are two sets of flashing yellow/red lights). Anyway, I look around, and there's no cops... so I figure what the hell... I hit the traction control "off" button and drop the clutch at about 3500 rpm... I'm on a slight incline, so the car doesn't budge as the back tires start spinning... after a few seconds, the car starts going forward as tire smoke pours from the back. I look down at the tach (not the speedo) and it's about 500rpm from redline, so I let off the throttle and watch the rpms go down. At this point, I'm doing about 40 in a 25. I look down and realize how fast I'm going and hit the brakes to slow down. Well, I'm down the 30, the average speed on the street... and I look in the rear view only to see a cruiser hauling a** to catch up with me (which was a bit rediculous considering I'm only going 30 at the time... the cop must've been about double that)... well, at this point I'm hoping he didn't see me do the burnout, since you can get in a s**tpile of trouble for spinning the whels.
Anyway, he follows me for about 1,000 feet and finally lights me up. Okay, so I'm currently at the point where I don't give a rat's a** about tickets... chances are they're going to be my fault anyway. So I'm nice and calm, and still in a good mood (burnouts do that). He comes ups to me:
"Do you have any idea why I pulled you over?"
"Not really." (what the hell else do you say?)
"It might have been the same reason you slammed on the brakes as you passed me" (I didn't even see the cop until he was trying to catch up with me, so that didn't exactly happen)
"I didn't even see you"
"Oh. Well anyway, you were going a bit fast back there; I clocked you at about 38mph. So can I see your license, registration, and insurance information?"
-I have all three ready already and hand them to him-
He comes back about 5 minutes later and tells me he's going to give me a written warning for speeding, and then I proceed to explain that I just got the car tuesday and wasn't really used to it yet and didn't realize how fast I was going... and he stood there for another 5 minutes talking to me about the 'stang. I love the new cop There's no way he didn't hear me do the burnout lol
Anyway, I realize I'm a dumba** and I don't really recommend anybody do stupid s**t like me... every time I do something stupid, I end up going home and thinking about how much of an a**hat I am lol
*edited so people know I was in the 'stang for the last offense (smoke pouring out of the rear wheel wells on a civic is not a good thing lol)
#4
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
^ Nice..
1st ticket - Speeding.
Doing 75 in a 55. Got pulled over as I passed a unmarked cop car, it was around 10pm about 2 years ago, and about 2 or 3 months after I got my license, it was after Winter Formal, I had my girl(at the time) and 2 buddies. He gave me a ticket and he was like "Why were you going so fast." and I said "I dunno, its late and I wasn't really paying attention.." and he said "Oh, well. Thats kind of wreckless of you." and I said "Yeah, I guess so.." So he just gave me a ticket, and I got court supervision for 3 months, not so bad.. I kind of got out lucky, and had to pay the fine and court cost. Done and over.
First Warning - Drifting.
Drifting a circle-ish turn by my school at night, I felt stupid because RIGHT when I was cranking the ebrake and sliding, I saw him. He sat there for awhile and when I went down the street, he nailed me. But luckily I had my friend with me, who.. His uncle was the top cop around there, and he let me off with a verbal warning.
Second Warning - Burnout.
I went to the Taste of Chaos event in Chicago, and when I left during school I decided to crank up the bass, and it was my senior year.. So I wanted to be rememebered. I revved high and dumped the clutch on my stock tires, and then ripped the ebrake. Sat there for about 10~15 seconds, smoke flying everywhere! Kids chanting me outside the window, and everything. I had the whole street filled with smoke, I felt proud. Then couple days later when I went back to school, the principal nailed me, with a cop.. He gave me a In School Suspension, and the cop had a talk with me about "Innapropiate Driving", saying "Still, I know you're a kid and you wanna have fun.. But, weather or not there are kids around outside. You distracted students, and could of lost control and hit a car or something." and kept going. I apologized and said I wouldn't do another stunt like that, and he let me off the hook. When I left the office and went into the hallway, everyone like clapped and ****. I felt so awesome lol.. People I didn't even know came up to me and was like "Dude, that was ****ing awesome!!" And I got **** from some teachers, that was VERY rude.. One kid in class was like "Nick that burnout was tight." and I said "Haha, thanks." and the teacher said "Yeah, its a good way to waste $200 on new tires. Wow, you are so cool Nick." saying it sarcastically, and I said "Yep, I know i'm cool. And i'm getting new tires anyways, so I don't really care." and sent me to the office for "Insubordination" and I argued with the principle defending myself saying she said a rude comment, and he let it go.
Those are my uneventful story. Some kid even recorded my burnout on his phone, it was pretty cool. Some kid told me that the smoke went into a few classrooms, and thats why teachers got so pissy.
Man.. Good High School times... [8D]
1st ticket - Speeding.
Doing 75 in a 55. Got pulled over as I passed a unmarked cop car, it was around 10pm about 2 years ago, and about 2 or 3 months after I got my license, it was after Winter Formal, I had my girl(at the time) and 2 buddies. He gave me a ticket and he was like "Why were you going so fast." and I said "I dunno, its late and I wasn't really paying attention.." and he said "Oh, well. Thats kind of wreckless of you." and I said "Yeah, I guess so.." So he just gave me a ticket, and I got court supervision for 3 months, not so bad.. I kind of got out lucky, and had to pay the fine and court cost. Done and over.
First Warning - Drifting.
Drifting a circle-ish turn by my school at night, I felt stupid because RIGHT when I was cranking the ebrake and sliding, I saw him. He sat there for awhile and when I went down the street, he nailed me. But luckily I had my friend with me, who.. His uncle was the top cop around there, and he let me off with a verbal warning.
Second Warning - Burnout.
I went to the Taste of Chaos event in Chicago, and when I left during school I decided to crank up the bass, and it was my senior year.. So I wanted to be rememebered. I revved high and dumped the clutch on my stock tires, and then ripped the ebrake. Sat there for about 10~15 seconds, smoke flying everywhere! Kids chanting me outside the window, and everything. I had the whole street filled with smoke, I felt proud. Then couple days later when I went back to school, the principal nailed me, with a cop.. He gave me a In School Suspension, and the cop had a talk with me about "Innapropiate Driving", saying "Still, I know you're a kid and you wanna have fun.. But, weather or not there are kids around outside. You distracted students, and could of lost control and hit a car or something." and kept going. I apologized and said I wouldn't do another stunt like that, and he let me off the hook. When I left the office and went into the hallway, everyone like clapped and ****. I felt so awesome lol.. People I didn't even know came up to me and was like "Dude, that was ****ing awesome!!" And I got **** from some teachers, that was VERY rude.. One kid in class was like "Nick that burnout was tight." and I said "Haha, thanks." and the teacher said "Yeah, its a good way to waste $200 on new tires. Wow, you are so cool Nick." saying it sarcastically, and I said "Yep, I know i'm cool. And i'm getting new tires anyways, so I don't really care." and sent me to the office for "Insubordination" and I argued with the principle defending myself saying she said a rude comment, and he let it go.
Those are my uneventful story. Some kid even recorded my burnout on his phone, it was pretty cool. Some kid told me that the smoke went into a few classrooms, and thats why teachers got so pissy.
Man.. Good High School times... [8D]
#7
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
all mine are off my record now.LOL
all old tickets from my 66impala, typical speeding/ and burn outs/ UNSAFE START what they called it.LOL
i used to get them all the time!!!!!! hell i got a 400cubic inch motor and 2speed powerglide tranny....... ITS TO MUCH POWER for a 16-20ish year old. LMFAO
ever since i parked the car and kept it as a strickly weekend driver and got something slower. LMFAO
PLUS that big motor also sucks gas....
all old tickets from my 66impala, typical speeding/ and burn outs/ UNSAFE START what they called it.LOL
i used to get them all the time!!!!!! hell i got a 400cubic inch motor and 2speed powerglide tranny....... ITS TO MUCH POWER for a 16-20ish year old. LMFAO
ever since i parked the car and kept it as a strickly weekend driver and got something slower. LMFAO
PLUS that big motor also sucks gas....
#8
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
ORIGINAL: addiction2bass
all mine are off my record now.LOL
all old tickets from my 66impala, typical speeding/ and burn outs/ UNSAFE START what they called it.LOL
i used to get them all the time!!!!!! hell i got a 400cubic inch motor and 2speed powerglide tranny....... ITS TO MUCH POWER for a 16-20ish year old. LMFAO
ever since i parked the car and kept it as a strickly weekend driver and got something slower. LMFAO
PLUS that big motor also sucks gas....
all mine are off my record now.LOL
all old tickets from my 66impala, typical speeding/ and burn outs/ UNSAFE START what they called it.LOL
i used to get them all the time!!!!!! hell i got a 400cubic inch motor and 2speed powerglide tranny....... ITS TO MUCH POWER for a 16-20ish year old. LMFAO
ever since i parked the car and kept it as a strickly weekend driver and got something slower. LMFAO
PLUS that big motor also sucks gas....
I'm trying to help my pal out and get them off his record, but I only know for sure he can get Court Supervision for his last one (to my knowledge anyways). Because his court date or whatever isn't until the end of June.
#9
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
1. Warning like 2 years ago for a neon licence plate cover turned on while driving
2. Another warning for the plate cover and underglow.
3. Warning for waiting in the fire lane for my parents to come out of walmart, also warned about 5% tint.
4. Warning for ~34 in 25mph zone.
5.My first ticket for61 in a 45.lol This one was well deserved. I was turning onto another road after dropping my friend off from the movies and I decided to see how I liked my new exhaust so I launched when I got onto that road and chirped the tires going into second, shifted to third at around 60 something and then looked in my review and saw a cop trying to catch up to me soI slowed down and pulled over. I was probably topped out at about 65-70 but I guess by the time he caught me his radar said 61. When he got to my window he sounded pissed off and he also warned me about my 5% tint but didn't have a tint meter so he couldn't give me a ticket for it. He must have been parked somewhere in the dark because I didn't see him until he was trying to catch me.
6. This was my ticket for the 5% tint that I finally ran out of luck with after over a year of having it. It happened to be the same cop that pulled me over for the speeding also.
7. I forgot to add this one. Me and my friend were stopped at a red light and two state troopers stopped us and told us to go home becuase it "looked like we were going to street race"
2. Another warning for the plate cover and underglow.
3. Warning for waiting in the fire lane for my parents to come out of walmart, also warned about 5% tint.
4. Warning for ~34 in 25mph zone.
5.My first ticket for61 in a 45.lol This one was well deserved. I was turning onto another road after dropping my friend off from the movies and I decided to see how I liked my new exhaust so I launched when I got onto that road and chirped the tires going into second, shifted to third at around 60 something and then looked in my review and saw a cop trying to catch up to me soI slowed down and pulled over. I was probably topped out at about 65-70 but I guess by the time he caught me his radar said 61. When he got to my window he sounded pissed off and he also warned me about my 5% tint but didn't have a tint meter so he couldn't give me a ticket for it. He must have been parked somewhere in the dark because I didn't see him until he was trying to catch me.
6. This was my ticket for the 5% tint that I finally ran out of luck with after over a year of having it. It happened to be the same cop that pulled me over for the speeding also.
7. I forgot to add this one. Me and my friend were stopped at a red light and two state troopers stopped us and told us to go home becuase it "looked like we were going to street race"
#10
RE: How are you with driving tickets?
ORIGINAL: Vilex
How did you get them off record? Court Supervision? Just curious.
How did you get them off record? Court Supervision? Just curious.
i could tell it big time by my insurance bill keep droping.LOL and then when ya turn almost 25years old you also get another insurance drop. its awhole lot cheaper now... tho id say im still geting screwed over paying every month.LOL there should be a limit to how much insurance you pay and NOT USE THE INSURANCE.... hell been with some place or about 12years now and never filed one claim!
the tickets dont detour me any... its the car insurance increase that blows!