Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
#81
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
The illegal's problem we have in this country is the Mexican governments faults not our governments fault. If they would provide for their own population and spur growth the need for people to come here would be far less.
How will they produce that much more carbon? They arent refineries we are talking about, but productions sites.
#82
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
ORIGINAL: 94civicus
Yes it is price gouging. but it is not the exxon companies doing it.
ORIGINAL: Marty
Anyone that says that is not gouging prices is blind and stupid. I am not saying it is Bush's fault. Bush is a idiot and I honestly do not think he has the brain power to cook up a plan or put one into play that would do this.
Anyone that says that is not gouging prices is blind and stupid. I am not saying it is Bush's fault. Bush is a idiot and I honestly do not think he has the brain power to cook up a plan or put one into play that would do this.
Supply and demand. I don't believe there's problem with supply, as companies are claiming. But our demand is sick. People would pay more than they're charging now, but imo they're setting prices just high enough to keep the government off their backs. Notice how last week there was an uproar in the media about climbing gas prices, and immediately they started to simmer down? Keepin the heat off em.
Free trade, capitalism, I understand all that. They're allowed to charge what people will pay. However, I really do think it would have been in Americas best interest economically to have not allowed gas prices to get to what they are. The government should regulate prices on commodities like oil, imo, and should set them to is best for the country as a whole, rather than a few small groups of individuals.
#83
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
ORIGINAL: Mad7s
Seriously, do some homework into Latin America. Mexico is one of the most debt ridden countries there is. Back in the 80s they took some ridiculously heavy loans and weren't able to pay them back. They're still working on that same debt today. That is why the Mexican government is having a bit of a rough time providing for its own. Secondly, this country has prospered largely due to the explotation of raw materials from other countries and simply taking raw materials from other countries ie. Mexico in the Mexican American War. We can thank them for the gold rush. Go 49ers! And then finally I have to put forth the suggestion that maybe if we weren't so busy spending money on B.S. wars in far and exotic lands then maybe we could make the diplomatic gesture of offering Mexico a little debt relief. And if you come back with the idea that we shouldn't be giving countries money, then my God you must hate Israel.
The illegal's problem we have in this country is the Mexican governments faults not our governments fault. If they would provide for their own population and spur growth the need for people to come here would be far less.
#84
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
ORIGINAL: Kedawei
Actually, it is. Exxon themselves made $36 billion dollars last year, pure profit, all in their pocket. It's amazing to me what Fox News can get people to believe. Foreign countries are not setting our oil prices, our companies are, and they are gouging the hell out of prices. In fact, 49% percent of all oil sold in the US is drilled in the US, which is by far our largest supplier. Number two is Venezula at 12%, I think. (Someone correct me on all this if I'm wrong.) Anyway, add those numbers. 49% percent of $36 billion is $17.64 billion dollars, taken directly from US land, sold to US people. OPEC has nothing to do with that.
Supply and demand. I don't believe there's problem with supply, as companies are claiming. But our demand is sick. People would pay more than they're charging now, but imo they're setting prices just high enough to keep the government off their backs. Notice how last week there was an uproar in the media about climbing gas prices, and immediately they started to simmer down? Keepin the heat off em.
Free trade, capitalism, I understand all that. They're allowed to charge what people will pay. However, I really do think it would have been in Americas best interest economically to have not allowed gas prices to get to what they are. The government should regulate prices on commodities like oil, imo, and should set them to is best for the country as a whole, rather than a few small groups of individuals.
ORIGINAL: 94civicus
Yes it is price gouging. but it is not the exxon companies doing it.
ORIGINAL: Marty
Anyone that says that is not gouging prices is blind and stupid. I am not saying it is Bush's fault. Bush is a idiot and I honestly do not think he has the brain power to cook up a plan or put one into play that would do this.
Anyone that says that is not gouging prices is blind and stupid. I am not saying it is Bush's fault. Bush is a idiot and I honestly do not think he has the brain power to cook up a plan or put one into play that would do this.
Supply and demand. I don't believe there's problem with supply, as companies are claiming. But our demand is sick. People would pay more than they're charging now, but imo they're setting prices just high enough to keep the government off their backs. Notice how last week there was an uproar in the media about climbing gas prices, and immediately they started to simmer down? Keepin the heat off em.
Free trade, capitalism, I understand all that. They're allowed to charge what people will pay. However, I really do think it would have been in Americas best interest economically to have not allowed gas prices to get to what they are. The government should regulate prices on commodities like oil, imo, and should set them to is best for the country as a whole, rather than a few small groups of individuals.
Also, we import 60% of our oil----http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html And since you say foreign countries arent setting our prices, then tell me WHY EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS INCREASED THEIR PRICES ALONG WITH US? Once you explain to me why ALMOST every other country in the world is paying more than we are, then maybe I will believe you. It has nothing to do with living in a FREE MARKET, does it? Please get facts straight before spitting them out---Dave
#85
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
ORIGINAL: Scroder
Please get your facts right---Canada is the #1 exporter of oil to the U.S followed by Mexico and third is Saudi Arabia---http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/totimportsby_country.htm
Also, we import 60% of our oil----http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html And since you say foreign countries arent setting our prices, then tell me WHY EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS INCREASED THEIR PRICES ALONG WITH US? Once you explain to me why ALMOST every other country in the world is paying more than we are, then maybe I will believe you. It has nothing to do with living in a FREE MARKET, does it? Please get facts straight before spitting them out---Dave
Please get your facts right---Canada is the #1 exporter of oil to the U.S followed by Mexico and third is Saudi Arabia---http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/totimportsby_country.htm
Also, we import 60% of our oil----http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html And since you say foreign countries arent setting our prices, then tell me WHY EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS INCREASED THEIR PRICES ALONG WITH US? Once you explain to me why ALMOST every other country in the world is paying more than we are, then maybe I will believe you. It has nothing to do with living in a FREE MARKET, does it? Please get facts straight before spitting them out---Dave
As to why almost every other country in the world is paying as much or more as we are, provide me with another one of your handy links, because I'm uncertain that is an accurate assumption. Although I don't have agreeing data that I can link you, I would be willing to wager that no other country in the world that produces as much oil as we do, is charging prices as high as we are. Look at other countries that produce large quantities of their own oil, such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Venezula, and Iraq. Their gasoline prices are all near or under $1 USD per gallon. You could try to blame demand for these low prices, saying their countries just aren't willing to pay what we are for oil, but Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are not impoverished nations. Kuwait is actually fairly wealthy. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.)
From what I can tell, our prices are what they are because of two factors more than any others, demand and greed.
#86
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
ORIGINAL: Kedawei
If you look at the first list from the link you posted, the United States isn't even listed (other than the Virgin Islands). So what does that mean, we produce no oil other than in the Virgin Islands? Did they forget Texas, Oklahoma, and everywhere else we drill domestically? Obviously, that is a list of our foreign oil suppliers only. And your second link, that data is from 2004. We could have easily increased our domestic production 9% in 2005, which is where my data is coming from. The numbers I have presented are from a CNN broadcast I watched recently.
As to why almost every other country in the world is paying as much or more as we are, provide me with another one of your handy links, because I'm uncertain that is an accurate assumption. Although I don't have agreeing data that I can link you, I would be willing to wager that no other country in the world that produces as much oil as we do, is charging prices as high as we are. Look at other countries that produce large quantities of their own oil, such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Venezula, and Iraq. Their gasoline prices are all near or under $1 USD per gallon. You could try to blame demand for these low prices, saying their countries just aren't willing to pay what we are for oil, but Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are not impoverished nations. Kuwait is actually fairly wealthy. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.)
From what I can tell, our prices are what they are because of two factors more than any others, demand and greed.
ORIGINAL: Scroder
Please get your facts right---Canada is the #1 exporter of oil to the U.S followed by Mexico and third is Saudi Arabia---http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/totimportsby_country.htm
Also, we import 60% of our oil----http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html And since you say foreign countries arent setting our prices, then tell me WHY EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS INCREASED THEIR PRICES ALONG WITH US? Once you explain to me why ALMOST every other country in the world is paying more than we are, then maybe I will believe you. It has nothing to do with living in a FREE MARKET, does it? Please get facts straight before spitting them out---Dave
Please get your facts right---Canada is the #1 exporter of oil to the U.S followed by Mexico and third is Saudi Arabia---http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/totimportsby_country.htm
Also, we import 60% of our oil----http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html And since you say foreign countries arent setting our prices, then tell me WHY EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS INCREASED THEIR PRICES ALONG WITH US? Once you explain to me why ALMOST every other country in the world is paying more than we are, then maybe I will believe you. It has nothing to do with living in a FREE MARKET, does it? Please get facts straight before spitting them out---Dave
As to why almost every other country in the world is paying as much or more as we are, provide me with another one of your handy links, because I'm uncertain that is an accurate assumption. Although I don't have agreeing data that I can link you, I would be willing to wager that no other country in the world that produces as much oil as we do, is charging prices as high as we are. Look at other countries that produce large quantities of their own oil, such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Venezula, and Iraq. Their gasoline prices are all near or under $1 USD per gallon. You could try to blame demand for these low prices, saying their countries just aren't willing to pay what we are for oil, but Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are not impoverished nations. Kuwait is actually fairly wealthy. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.)
From what I can tell, our prices are what they are because of two factors more than any others, demand and greed.
#87
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
See the problem with that is that the Mexican government is as dirty as they come. Drug cartels, street gangs, kidnapping for hire/ransome are all activities that the Mexican government either turns a blind eye to or helps along the way. They do not want their people to grow and prosper simple as that. As far as the stuff we "took" from them in the 1800's so what. Your talking well over 100 years ago and to put my point across look at Japan. We dropped the 2 worst bombs ever used in a war killing millions at a time, we all but took over their country after WWII. What are they doing? I'd say they are among the leaders in the world as far as education, economy, and inovation now just over 60 years later.
I think there is one point we can agree upon in the international realm though Marty.........................................Japa n makes really sweet cars.
#88
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
See the thing about it is we are no the ones that are respobsable for the Mexican governments short falls regaurdless of what we did to them over 100 years ago. Ya know this country has had to overcome it's fair share
Revolutionary War
Civil War
WWI
WWII
Vietnam
Desert Storm
Afganastan
Iraq
and now it is soon to over come Iran all while having North Korea breathing down our necks.
This is not a matter for us to fix. Last time I checked entering a country through the back door w/o the correct paperwork is illegal plain and simple. They get caught they get deported simple as that, you break the law again and enter this country w/o the correct paperwork and you get a felony. Nothing wrong with that sorry. In a time when we need to protect our borders more so than any other time people have no way to justify anyone entering this country un-detected.
I fully understand this, you do not come in this country w/o the correct paperwork, I dont care how long it takes. This is a open and shut issue for me and also a very big national security risk. When are people going to wake up, this is not us vs the people of Mexico, this is us vs people breaking U.S. laws, this is us trying to protect ourselves from the possability of terrorist coming across the border, this is us keeping people be it Mexicans or any other people from any other country from milking our system, putting Americans out of jobs, making us pick up the tab on their ER visits, making us pick up the tab for them driving and wrecking with no insurence(yes it drives our rates up). I for the life of me do not understand how anyone has any right to say anything about this. They can tap our damn phone lines but we are not allowed to lock our borders down??????? What kinda crap is that?
I think the people who are against anybody getting deported for not being a legal resident or having the correct passport, paperwork to be here need to stand back and look at the big picture.
Revolutionary War
Civil War
WWI
WWII
Vietnam
Desert Storm
Afganastan
Iraq
and now it is soon to over come Iran all while having North Korea breathing down our necks.
This is not a matter for us to fix. Last time I checked entering a country through the back door w/o the correct paperwork is illegal plain and simple. They get caught they get deported simple as that, you break the law again and enter this country w/o the correct paperwork and you get a felony. Nothing wrong with that sorry. In a time when we need to protect our borders more so than any other time people have no way to justify anyone entering this country un-detected.
I fully understand this, you do not come in this country w/o the correct paperwork, I dont care how long it takes. This is a open and shut issue for me and also a very big national security risk. When are people going to wake up, this is not us vs the people of Mexico, this is us vs people breaking U.S. laws, this is us trying to protect ourselves from the possability of terrorist coming across the border, this is us keeping people be it Mexicans or any other people from any other country from milking our system, putting Americans out of jobs, making us pick up the tab on their ER visits, making us pick up the tab for them driving and wrecking with no insurence(yes it drives our rates up). I for the life of me do not understand how anyone has any right to say anything about this. They can tap our damn phone lines but we are not allowed to lock our borders down??????? What kinda crap is that?
I think the people who are against anybody getting deported for not being a legal resident or having the correct passport, paperwork to be here need to stand back and look at the big picture.
#89
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
Bush has a brain, his name is Carl Rove. Bush is too stupid to actually make any of his own decisions so he has people do it for him. I wonder how many wars its going to take before we realize we can't run around beating the **** out of everyone.
#90
RE: Finally, people are going after Bush to do something about gas prices
Yea, United States is one of the few countries whose most of the wars happens outside of the country. We love this country so much that we have to go to war w anybody have a thought of hurting it.