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Old 06-23-2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ej6buddy
Doesn't really improve torque, just improves throttle response and saves your oem engine mounts made of play-doh.
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I'd argue the "improves torque" point. An engine damper merely keeps the engine from shaking the chassis, something your engine mounts should already be doing.

*ninja edit: d**m, ej beat me to it... it's what I get for multi-tasking lol
It improves torque (a little) but yea, mostly throttle response. That's still important though and makes a big difference. The difference from installing polyurethane motor mount inserts was astounding (not in numbers, but just the overall feeling of the throttle response).

And the engine damper doesn't really keep the chassis from shaking, it actually makes it shake more. It's making the engine more solid to the chassis (same overall effect of poly inserts) so that the engine twists less and more power makes it to the wheels.
 
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Old 06-23-2009 | 08:21 PM
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Ya i need a deeper socket set than what i have now, to remove the nuts for the NRG damper.
I hope i can set the shock up rite. I'm thinking about going to an advance auto, don't they have a tool loaning system?
 
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Old 06-24-2009 | 06:46 AM
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Tc is an automatic.
 
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Old 06-24-2009 | 02:22 PM
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good luck with that TC i have a Ej8 with mid built b16, and a automatic p28(AUTO cannot be tuned). and i destroy Tcs. not to sure what your single slammer will do. keep it safe stay on the track.
 
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Old 06-24-2009 | 03:09 PM
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good luck with that TC i have a Ej8 with mid built b16, and a automatic p28(AUTO cannot be tuned). and i destroy Tcs. not to sure what your single slammer will do. keep it safe stay on the track.
Not an EJ8.
 
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Old 06-24-2009 | 03:30 PM
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So the kid wants to do the race, i read online that the TC automatic are slow.


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good luck with that TC
Thanks, im going to try and film it.
 
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Old 06-24-2009 | 04:25 PM
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Stu - if an engine damper doesn't dampen vibrations from the engine, why is it called an engine damper? And if it makes the engine shake the car more, why are they installed from the factory on a good many cars? Also, I'd like to see independent dyno testing before I believe they gain any torque at all.

Enigma - if he's running an auto, he's probably slower than you; I was under the assumption he had a manual.
 
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Old 06-24-2009 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper2022

Enigma - if he's running an auto, he's probably slower than you; I was under the assumption he had a manual.
I was under the same assumption. i just found out today thats its an auto.
 

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Old 06-24-2009 | 05:32 PM
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It doesn't improve torque, you just might recover the torque a little earlier on on a dyno pull. Once the car is in gear and in motion with the engine "torqued" during acceleration after the clutch has grabbed, you're not going to see any gains. All it does is make the car have a sportier feel in between shifts with an improved feel.
 
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Old 06-25-2009 | 06:50 PM
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it was a tc its my friends car. beat him by 4 car links
 



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