MPG - What does your honda get???
#22
02-10-2005 | 07:27 PM
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RE: MPG - What does your honda get???
Yeah they use the electric motor of a stop. The electric motor has more torque than the gas powered engine. So acceleration is faster, but to benefit from the gas mileage it is best to accelerate slower as it will drain less juice from the battery and it will require less to charge it back up... however it is still cool to have that extra power.
#26
02-12-2005 | 02:04 PM
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RE: MPG - What does your honda get???
Hello!
These are some CVT Civic Hybrid specifications from Hondacars.com:
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...e=Civic+Hybrid
1.3 Liter engine alone produces 85 HP, Torque is 87, with electric combined is 105ft-lb. A MT equipped HCH has a combined 116ft-lb.
The electric motor contributes only about 16HP.
Acceleration is about 10-11 seconds from 0-60, so this is not the fastest car on a sprint, so if you're looking for a race, this is not the car to do it.
Normal driving you don't notice any difference.
Civic EX's 1.668 Liter engine produces 127HP and 114ft lb of torque, and goes 0-60 about 1.5 seconds faster.
My HCH replaced a '94 Dodge Spirit which got about 17MPG, and last year alone I saved about $5,000 in fuel alone, based on $1.80/gallon and 60MPG.
Most folks are averaging about 47MPG in the HCH. My wife drives it as normal as anyone and also gets the same 45-55.
Fuel savings over a similarly equipped EX: If fuel remains at $1.80/gallon it would take about 10 years to get back the $2-3,000 hybrid premium, based on 47MPG if one were to choose between the two. I think fuel is on it's way back up which would cut the margin.
I'll make up the difference in about 3 years.
Me, I've made maximizing MPG a game in every trip I drive, so I'm not driving "normal". I'm noticing every curve, every incoming hill, changing traffic ahead, even wind direction to get my 60MPG. I drive about the speed limits, sometimes slower or faster using every trick in the book (Except drafting) in a way that other drivers don't notice. Sounds like alot of work but the challenge is new every time, it's fun.
Kind of does wierd things to you though, like now if I'm in a different car and it stays running at the stop I wonder what's wrong, why is it still running?[:-]
I have a family of 5, otherwise I'd be driving the Honda Insight. Some hypermilers are averaging about 90MPG this winter commuting in-out of Chicago, and peaked at 114MPG last summer. You can see how all the hybrid cars are doing at greenhybrid.com which has a hybrid MPG database with over 3 million miles logged by its owners.
Honda standard warranty is 3yr/36,000 on the entire drive train, 7yr/70,000 battery.
I bought the ext warranty for about $1,000 which upgrades to 7yr/70K and 10yr/150K battery. I keep my cars for 10 years, and this one will have about 300,000 on it. I expect the battery to go flat before then, and I'll have some replacement options:
1. Go buy the OEM replacement for $1500 - $2,000.
2. Buy a used pack with a guarantee from a wrecked-salvaged one.
3. Test each cell and replace the defective ones. There's 144 "D" size in the pack.
4. Drive with less performance.
Personally if it needs replacement at 250K mile's I'd likely go with #4.
These are some CVT Civic Hybrid specifications from Hondacars.com:
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...e=Civic+Hybrid
1.3 Liter engine alone produces 85 HP, Torque is 87, with electric combined is 105ft-lb. A MT equipped HCH has a combined 116ft-lb.
The electric motor contributes only about 16HP.
Acceleration is about 10-11 seconds from 0-60, so this is not the fastest car on a sprint, so if you're looking for a race, this is not the car to do it.
Normal driving you don't notice any difference.
Civic EX's 1.668 Liter engine produces 127HP and 114ft lb of torque, and goes 0-60 about 1.5 seconds faster.
My HCH replaced a '94 Dodge Spirit which got about 17MPG, and last year alone I saved about $5,000 in fuel alone, based on $1.80/gallon and 60MPG.
Most folks are averaging about 47MPG in the HCH. My wife drives it as normal as anyone and also gets the same 45-55.
Fuel savings over a similarly equipped EX: If fuel remains at $1.80/gallon it would take about 10 years to get back the $2-3,000 hybrid premium, based on 47MPG if one were to choose between the two. I think fuel is on it's way back up which would cut the margin.
I'll make up the difference in about 3 years.
Me, I've made maximizing MPG a game in every trip I drive, so I'm not driving "normal". I'm noticing every curve, every incoming hill, changing traffic ahead, even wind direction to get my 60MPG. I drive about the speed limits, sometimes slower or faster using every trick in the book (Except drafting) in a way that other drivers don't notice. Sounds like alot of work but the challenge is new every time, it's fun.
Kind of does wierd things to you though, like now if I'm in a different car and it stays running at the stop I wonder what's wrong, why is it still running?[:-]
I have a family of 5, otherwise I'd be driving the Honda Insight. Some hypermilers are averaging about 90MPG this winter commuting in-out of Chicago, and peaked at 114MPG last summer. You can see how all the hybrid cars are doing at greenhybrid.com which has a hybrid MPG database with over 3 million miles logged by its owners.
Honda standard warranty is 3yr/36,000 on the entire drive train, 7yr/70,000 battery.
I bought the ext warranty for about $1,000 which upgrades to 7yr/70K and 10yr/150K battery. I keep my cars for 10 years, and this one will have about 300,000 on it. I expect the battery to go flat before then, and I'll have some replacement options:
1. Go buy the OEM replacement for $1500 - $2,000.
2. Buy a used pack with a guarantee from a wrecked-salvaged one.
3. Test each cell and replace the defective ones. There's 144 "D" size in the pack.
4. Drive with less performance.
Personally if it needs replacement at 250K mile's I'd likely go with #4.
#27
02-13-2005 | 12:01 AM
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RE: MPG - What does your honda get???
yea i was reading that at the dealer, theyll do the same warrenty for the S2000 inwhich im looking to purchase.... Ill either get endless speeding tickets or die...at least ill die happy. [sm=badbadbad.gif]
#30
02-13-2005 | 01:24 PM
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RE: MPG - What does your honda get???
on a nice day(not snowing, cold, or anything) i get about 34 mpg in the city and 40 mpg on the highway even though it's suppose to be 32 and 38. on cold days it goes down to about 27-28 in the city and 35 or so on the highway. so weather does affect it.
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