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Old 02-16-2010, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by supersize
10s hit harder than 12s any day, shouldnt be a prob
No. A good 12 will hit just as hard as a 10. This is totally arbitrary. an 18 can hit harder/quicker/ more accurately than a 10 if it has a better installation.

Originally Posted by Largen
I second Supersize's comment, i have a single ten in a sealed box that hits harder then alot of twelves do, Take a look at Pioneers Champion series woofers, GREAT sound for a low price, and they beat the hell out of any Alpines i have ever heard.
Again, just no. You should not look at pioneer for subs. Fi car audio, SSA, Incriminator Audio, AQ, DD, Sound Splinter, Mach5 are some companies of the top of my head that are worlds better (at least when it comes to woofers)
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Originally Posted by cowsgonemadd3
Does 2 subs make better sound, or should I aim for just one big one?
2 subs will be LOUDER, not necessarily better sounding or worse sounding...

Originally Posted by kanarrjl
ok the newbs to car audio need to shut up now.

how loud subs are, depends 90% on the install. 75% of the install being the box that they are in. can a single 10 be louder than your 2 12's sure but in the correct environment for a pair of 12's and a pair of 10's the same brand and same car the 12's will be louder because of the simple fact that they have more cone area which means more air movement.
Yes. the install is much more important that the equipment.

I'd say go with a 10 or two just cause room will be tight.
 
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:32 PM
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Again, just no. You should not look at pioneer for subs. Fi car audio, SSA, Incriminator Audio, AQ, DD, Sound Splinter, Mach5 are some companies of the top of my head that are worlds better (at least when it comes to woofers)

... Thats why i said Great sound for a low price, i know theres alot better out there, but honestly for the price these are great, and Pioneer does make a good product.
 
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Old 02-16-2010, 11:38 PM
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Pioneer subs aren't bad if you just want some bass and aren't incredibly picky. Not everyone wants or needs to buy the most expensive brands of audio equipment, Superfly.
 
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Old 02-17-2010, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by trustdestruction
Pioneer subs aren't bad if you just want some bass and aren't incredibly picky. Not everyone wants or needs to buy the most expensive brands of audio equipment, Superfly.
not all of those are expensive. $120-130 isn't expensive, is it?

Incriminator audio 187 = 120
SSA DCON 10" = 115
AQ SDC2.5 10" = 130

a bit more expensive, but not as much as a champion.

SoundSplinter orphan 8 8" = 145

BTW a champion is 189
 

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Old 02-17-2010, 10:38 AM
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Well the 12's will fit in the camaro, should I stick with MTX or go with JBL? I could get a bigger amp and send what around 200+ watts to the MTX 4500's I have now or I could upgrade both.
 
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Old 02-17-2010, 10:58 AM
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Stick with the MTX's and just give them the power they want.

some amps to look at

it's a 2 chan, but it'll work
http://www.powermaxelectronics.com/p...49&idcategory=

http://www.woofersetc.com/p6357/MRPM...-Amplifier.htm


http://www.woofersetc.com/p6859/FD-6...-Amplifier.htm

the ARC audio or the Sundown is probably your best bet. Both are very high quality and not very expensive.
 
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Old 02-17-2010, 05:38 PM
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But those are MONO, I have 2 12's....

Currently bridged my amp sends 120 or so to EACH speaker. I would need more than that.
 
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Old 02-17-2010, 06:34 PM
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I think this is the amp I have now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PIONEER-GM33...item5ad6b54bde

So I would need more than 120 watts.
 

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Old 02-17-2010, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Superfly
not all of those are expensive. $120-130 isn't expensive, is it?

Incriminator audio 187 = 120
SSA DCON 10" = 115
AQ SDC2.5 10" = 130

a bit more expensive, but not as much as a champion.

SoundSplinter orphan 8 8" = 145

BTW a champion is 189
$120-130 is certainly not tons of money or too much to spend but it is still a lot. It is clear now that the OP wants something with pretty nice quality so this is probably how much he wants to spend and he probably doesn't want Pioneer.

I'm just saying that Pioneer or other similar subwoofers aren't terrible and can still sound decent, just not show quality. To someone who wants show quality sound, of course those will be garbage to them. But all that most people want is something that sounds decent and adds some bass, which a Pioneer subwoofer would be fine for. Everyone who is hardcore into audio seems to talk so much trash about anything that isn't amazing and they act like everyone needs to go big or go home, and it gets kind of old.
 

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Old 02-17-2010, 07:13 PM
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Honestly I could probably shrink my box right, add more wattage to the speakers and be set with my current subs correct? Would I really notice more quality bass with some other subs? I WON'T be buying them new unless they are on ebay. I save a lot by doing that when I buy stuff.
 


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