Why are you trying to compare apples and oranges, dude? Bikes are bikes, Power to weight and all that sh!t. What are you trying to prove that shouldn't already be fairly common knowledge? It's like if I said put 5 five people on your bike and lets drag. You lose! I used to race bikes on the ice and snow against snow mobiles with no special equipment and respectably lose. Once in a while some a$$hole would run his mouth and my response would be to take it to the streets in July and see how you do with your snowmobile against my 750. Same deal . Keeping it all fun is what it's all about. Don't get caught up in the anonymity of this medium and say sh!t to people or about people that you wouldn't be saying or doing face to face. You know what you got and what it's capable of, right? Why get in a pissing contest when all that does it get you wet!
SMOKEM
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Why are you trying to compare apples and oranges, dude? Bikes are bikes, Power to weight and all that sh!t. What are you trying to prove that shouldn't already be fairly common knowledge? It's like if I said put 5 five people on your bike and lets drag. You lose! I used to race bikes on the ice and snow against snow mobiles with no special equipment and respectably lose. Once in a while some a$$hole would run his mouth and my response would be to take it to the streets in July and see how you do with your snowmobile against my 750. Same deal . Keeping it all fun is what it's all about. Don't get caught up in the anonymity of this medium and say sh!t to people or about people that you wouldn't be saying or doing face to face. You know what you got and what it's capable of, right? Why get in a pissing contest when all that does it get you wet!
SMOKEM
I didn't compare "apples and oranges". I simply said of you want to go fast in the 1/4 mile its much cheaper and easier on a bike. The following post said a car is faster than the fastest bike out if "well tuned". I was just defending my post and informing the poster of his error.
Point taken. Members of this site are very proud, and rightfully so, of their individual accomplishments with their rides. Alot of effort has been put forth getting their Civics both looking great and performing great ( in relative terms ) so sometimes you might rub someone the wrong way pointing out what they may already know. That was my point, made or not.
I read and mostly laugh but sometimes I just feel compelled to comment. It's all good though, kept in its place.
Dont say it cant be done, dont say it hasn't been done. It has been done. Bikes vs Cars you are looking at 2 totally different spectrums of the automotive industry. Bikes may have better power to weight, may get better milage, may be cheaper to go fast on..............but my car has heat, it keeps me dry when it's raining, plus IMO bikes dont have anything that sets them apart from eachother.......to me they all look the same.
Dont say it cant be done, dont say it hasn't been done. It has been done. Bikes vs Cars you are looking at 2 totally different spectrums of the automotive industry. Bikes may have better power to weight, may get better milage, may be cheaper to go fast on..............but my car has heat, it keeps me dry when it's raining, plus IMO bikes dont have anything that sets them apart from eachother.......to me they all look the same.
If you have the money though, it'd be easier and cheaper to get a civic as an economy car, and a honda cbr 1000 as a drag bike. Then you have a car that has heat and a top when its raining, and when the weather is nice a fast vehicle.
But why not have your cake and eat it too? Haver a super fast car you can drive daily. I for one am a power nut and feel neglected if I dont drive atleast a high 13 second car on a daily basis. Some people are different and I understand that but I will take every car I have/get and make it get to that point or better.
Point taken. Members of this site are very proud, and rightfully so, of their individual accomplishments with their rides. Alot of effort has been put forth getting their Civics both looking great and performing great ( in relative terms ) so sometimes you might rub someone the wrong way pointing out what they may already know. That was my point, made or not.
I read and mostly laugh but sometimes I just feel compelled to comment. It's all good though, kept in its place.
SMOKEM
Yeah I agree. I tend to type what I'm thinking and here on a Civic forum I'm sure some probably took it the wrong way. I just thought the previous was a bold statement and I couldn't very well keep my mouth shut. I have a Civic. It was cheap and it has turned into one of the best cars I've ever owned. I just don't think this is what they were designed to do.
The reason I commented in the this thread about bikes is because I've been around motors and mechanics my entire life and know how horsepower is made and how much it costs. I see cars all the time where the owner has dumped tons of money into an import and the result is blown head gaskets and/or disappointing performance numbers. When you ask someone what their car can do in the 1/4 mile or top speed or rwhp they usually exagerate wildly. Bikers do it too. My question is why kid yourself? $40k+ MIGHT get you into the 12's and be somewhat reliable in a car but $8k WILL get you into the 9's (if you are a capable rider) on a bike. The age old question "how to go fast for cheap?" has yet to answered with a car but has by reatively cheap motorcycles. If you want to go really fast you probably can't afford to in a car. Plus you guys don't know how it feels to have so much power to weight. Shifting out of 1st gear at 92-98mph is typical. The new 600's have a 16.5k redline. A 2001 Honda CBR929RR worth about $4000 will do 185mph indicated (probably 175mph actual) and can pull a low-10 second quarter with the right rider and its considered very slow and underpowered by todays standards.
Now that I have said my peace I will pray to the Civic gods for by blasphemy.
But why not have your cake and eat it too? Haver a super fast car you can drive daily. I for one am a power nut and feel neglected if I dont drive atleast a high 13 second car on a daily basis. Some people are different and I understand that but I will take every car I have/get and make it get to that point or better.
I see what you're saying, but I wouldn't want a 13 second street car, because i'd never drive it that fast on the street. I'd only go that fast on a track, and on a day I can run it on a track, I can run a CBR-1000
mr. demon....bikes pound for pound are the best thing you can spend your money on if you want to go fast. but i would MUCH rather go 180 in a car than a bike. at that speed pebbles become mountains and i like having 4 tires and a steel shell around me vs. open air and relying on a helmet and hopes and dreams to keep me safe. cars can be made to be just as fast as bikes, but yes, it does take LOTS of money. a car also has a much smaller learning curve for going fastthan a bike. you have a wreck in a car and you have a bad day, have a wreck on a bike and your day has gone to hell in a handbasket. i've had friends get severly hurt, some get paralyzed, and some even killed because of bikes. not because they're bad riders, but because of everyone else on the road.
and you said that street legal cars only go low 13s. that's the statement that really caught my eye and made me chuckle. there are SEVERAL...FACTORY cars that go lower than 13s. new Z06 for instance...11s easily....straight off the showroom. bikes can't help to be fast. you strap a 100hp motor on a frame, seat, and 2 wheels weighing a few hundred pounds and it's hard NOT tobe it fast.
like stated bikes are bikes and cars are cars. each have their own purposes and each havetheir ownplace in their respective circles. but those 2 circles do cross paths and there are cars that will hang with bikes. so bikes are superior most of the time in the performance department, butthat's not 100% accurate all the time
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